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	<title>Comments on: Disenfranchisement,   A Voter and a Precinct Judge Tell Their Stories</title>
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		<title>By: Carole Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carole Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you 440 but not everyone asks questions.

&lt;em&gt;Carole Cohen&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.clevelandrealestatenews.com/modernismincleveland/2008/03/07&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Modern Architecture meets Cleveland&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you 440 but not everyone asks questions.</p>
<p><em>Carole Cohen&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.clevelandrealestatenews.com/modernismincleveland/2008/03/07' rel="nofollow">Modern Architecture meets Cleveland</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Blog 440</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blog 440</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Nope, no mention of what ballot she wanted to cast.  She took the Judge as an official with authority and training and proceeded to vote.&quot;

Oh, please.  Did she miss that day in 9th grade civics class...the day they taught us how to cast a vote?

&lt;em&gt;Blog 440&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://blog440.wordpress.com/2008/03/07/delegate-debacle/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Delegate Debacle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nope, no mention of what ballot she wanted to cast.  She took the Judge as an official with authority and training and proceeded to vote.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, please.  Did she miss that day in 9th grade civics class&#8230;the day they taught us how to cast a vote?</p>
<p><em>Blog 440&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://blog440.wordpress.com/2008/03/07/delegate-debacle/' rel="nofollow">Delegate Debacle</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Carole Cohen</title>
		<link>http://www.clevelandrealestatenews.com/disenfranchisement-a-voter-and-a-precinct-judge-tell-their-stories/2008/03/06/comment-page-1#comment-669</link>
		<dc:creator>Carole Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Received a follow up email from David the precinct judge this morning.  Here it is:

&quot;If you get a ballot from your precint table, it must be returned to the proper ballot box. If it isn&#039;t, oh boy, I think there is hell to pay somewhere.
My guess is this, if you cast your ballot in the wrong ballot box, I&#039;m guessing the vote is null and void....VOTER/POLL WORKER fraud!
Did it happen Tuesday?....yes.

How? Well when it got crazy busy (remember that bottle neck thing I talked about with judge 3?) voters returning their ballots, seeing the minor back-up, would just go to another ballot box. And why not, they were done and had to move on.

They were instucted to return the ballot to us. And when its crazy busy, can were monitor the situation? Yep...and we did catch a few votes going into the wrong ballot box. But we still missed a handful. They were caught after the polls closed and we were doing the balance of our 16 hour day&#039;s work. Believe me, were balancing out at days end, that wrong ballot thing really screws up the whole she-bang!

Oh.....was this precints specific thing covered in our training? Not mine! Only knew about it while setting up the polls the night before election day, another 2 hrs of work. And how in the heck would the voter know?....&quot;

 You can cut and paste this email to your blog if you want to!

Z</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Received a follow up email from David the precinct judge this morning.  Here it is:</p>
<p>&#8220;If you get a ballot from your precint table, it must be returned to the proper ballot box. If it isn&#8217;t, oh boy, I think there is hell to pay somewhere.<br />
My guess is this, if you cast your ballot in the wrong ballot box, I&#8217;m guessing the vote is null and void&#8230;.VOTER/POLL WORKER fraud!<br />
Did it happen Tuesday?&#8230;.yes.</p>
<p>How? Well when it got crazy busy (remember that bottle neck thing I talked about with judge 3?) voters returning their ballots, seeing the minor back-up, would just go to another ballot box. And why not, they were done and had to move on.</p>
<p>They were instucted to return the ballot to us. And when its crazy busy, can were monitor the situation? Yep&#8230;and we did catch a few votes going into the wrong ballot box. But we still missed a handful. They were caught after the polls closed and we were doing the balance of our 16 hour day&#8217;s work. Believe me, were balancing out at days end, that wrong ballot thing really screws up the whole she-bang!</p>
<p>Oh&#8230;..was this precints specific thing covered in our training? Not mine! Only knew about it while setting up the polls the night before election day, another 2 hrs of work. And how in the heck would the voter know?&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p> You can cut and paste this email to your blog if you want to!</p>
<p>Z</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Carole Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carole Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elaine I wonder how many stories like this are &#039;the norm&#039; or if this situation is new? The electronic machines seem so much easier, and like I read on another blog tonight, no system is perfect so why not go with the best method? It&#039;s all crazy if you ask me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elaine I wonder how many stories like this are &#8216;the norm&#8217; or if this situation is new? The electronic machines seem so much easier, and like I read on another blog tonight, no system is perfect so why not go with the best method? It&#8217;s all crazy if you ask me!</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine Reese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elaine Reese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 05:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s very interesting about the problems you (Cleveland) encountered.

I was asked which ballot I wanted. I told them, then they gave me a slip of paper to take to the machine. The lady did the preparations with the electronic machine and I was ready to go.

I found the electronic machine very easy to use. Much like the Express check-out at the grocery store. Better than punching holes in the paper, and much easier to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s very interesting about the problems you (Cleveland) encountered.</p>
<p>I was asked which ballot I wanted. I told them, then they gave me a slip of paper to take to the machine. The lady did the preparations with the electronic machine and I was ready to go.</p>
<p>I found the electronic machine very easy to use. Much like the Express check-out at the grocery store. Better than punching holes in the paper, and much easier to read.</p>
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